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- November 13, 2019 at 5:14 pm in reply to: The Oldest Surviving SP250 discovered and will be on our stand at the NEC. #1428
I get the impression that the photo on page 43 of Brian Long’s book is actually “The Red One” 100000 with its new body after the crash, as shown on page 38, with trade plate 084 WK changed to reg. plate XHP 438, (reg. nr. later transferred to 100002; JDHT confirm that transferring reg. number plates did happen).
Brain Long says on page 57 that XHP 438 retains the deeper grille to this day, but I think that car must be The Red One 100000, so there is still a need to look for that one!
Photos in the book from page 44, ie from about September 1959, are all of 100002.
Either that or 100002 had a larger grille (page 43) which was changed to a smaller one (page 44 etc.), perhaps by swapping the body, changing the grille or swapping chassis, which seems unlikely.
I hate to suggest that Brian Long made a mistake, but I can’t think of no other way to explain it.November 12, 2019 at 10:06 pm in reply to: The Oldest Surviving SP250 discovered and will be on our stand at the NEC. #1424
Very interesting replies, but what a mix-up!
“However the same number plate also appears on a number of other cars in the book so it is clear that Daimler used to swap it from car to car.
•One of the prototypes had the larger grille and although the book says the car retains this grille to this day no-one (as far as I am aware) knows where it is.”
So, although you have 100002 and XHP 438, I assume that the prototype with the larger grille was probably earlier?
What a pity you haven’t got that one!November 12, 2019 at 4:45 pm in reply to: The Oldest Surviving SP250 discovered and will be on our stand at the NEC. #1416
Further to my last post,
Brian Long’s book page 43 shows XHP 438 with large grille and no badge.
Page 44 September 1959 XHP pictured outside William Winter’s house with smaller grille and badge.
Motorsport October 1959 The sensational Daimler V8 Dart SP 250 … which we announced in May will be at Earls Court. … At Earls Court XHP 438 was shown … so Earls Court must have been after September when the car had a smaller grille. Brian Long said on page 57 that XHP 438 has retired and retains the deeper grille to this day. Not so?
Has the VIN body number plate been swapped?November 12, 2019 at 4:19 pm in reply to: The Oldest Surviving SP250 discovered and will be on our stand at the NEC. #1414
Is there some confusion over the car photos? Brian Long’s book on page 43 shows XHP 438 with a larger grille, sharper V and no Daimler badge and his text says that it retains its slightly deeper grille to this day.
However, the car shown on the grass with a bridge behind in his book and in November’s DM shows a car with a normal grille, badge and no registration plate. Brian Long’s text just says that it’s a hard top version of the SP250.
The November DM then shows a car with reg. XHP 438 but with a normal grille and a badge.
Are they the same car with a later modified grille? When did XHP 438 have it’s grille changed?November 7, 2019 at 9:23 am in reply to: The Oldest Surviving SP250 discovered and will be on our stand at the NEC. #1403
I note that the latest photos show the car with wire wheels, an earlier photo shows steel wheels with covers and the earliest photos show plain steel wheels.
Will JHT change back to steels wheels and what colour were the original steel wheels?
Kevin posted hundreds of photos of his restoration in many posts here
But the photobucket photos don’t work for me now. I think it’s because Kevin (monkey) hasn’t paid Photobucket.
However, the posts may be useful reading on 24 pages and 349 posts.
What’s the general scope of it?
Is it technical, driveability, value, style, etc?
Any chance of a bit more info?
Who was driving? What was the reg. nr.?
Any special mods to steering or suspension as it looks like a skiddy surface?
What is the white car in front most of the time? A Lancia Flaminia?
What was the Dart’s speed down the straights? About 70 to 80mph judging by the speed of overtaking cars probably doing the ton.
I notice that the windscreen wipers parked on the left whereas for RHD it’s normally on the right.
Just a thought – if SP250s form say a third of the DLOC’s members’ cars, then shouldn’t this club get one third of the DLOC subscription?
Seriously, shouldn’t the DLOC support this club?
I’ve asked for donation details but I would expect the DLOC to be a big donor.
As a matter of interest, what proportion of the DLOC members’ cars are SP250s?
This is a much better forum than the last one.